BERLINALE 2020: INTERVIEW WITH BORA LEE-KIL

BERLINALE 2020: INTERVIEW WITH BORA LEE-KIL

By Felix Ernesto Arias Hück

South Korean filmmaker and writer Bora Lee-Kil has made a medium length film and two long documentaries so far. At the latest edition of Berlinale Talents, Doc Station, she presented her new documentary project Our Bodies, an intergenerational dialogue between Koreans. Who talks? With whom? About what? How and where? These elementary questions from the linguist’s perspective shall serve as a starting point to address the project that exposes the complexity of the concepts of body and communication.

She dropped out of school at the age of sixteen and traveled South East Asia for 8 months. This experience inspired her first film, Road-Schooler (2008), which also resulted in a book. Glittering Hands (2014), her second film,  is an award-winning documentary based on her stories of growing up moving back and forth between two worlds – one of silence and one of sounds. Her recent feature film, A War of Memories (2018) received the jury’s special mention for the Mecenat Award at the Busan International Film Festival in 2018. She recently graduated MA program, Artistic Research in and Through Cinema in the Netherlands Film Academy.

Desistfilm: Bora, how do you describe the context in which your documentary project inserts?

Bora Lee-Kil: The South Korean government had criminalized abortion since 1953. In April 2019, the Constitutional Court of South Korea ruled that the current criminality of abortion is incompatible with the constitution. By 2020, the Korean government must revise its laws on abortion. Nevertheless, talking about abortion is still a taboo. This film project is in between.

Desistfilm: Which of these moments you feel are key, not only to grasp the concept of the body as a nation, but to your particular topic?

Bora Lee-Kil: I focus on how the state has trained individual bodies, especially how women’s body have been treated. When looking for historical footage, I found moments of insistence on totalitarianism, not individual identity, for the economic development of the nation. It was especially interesting when I found ‘female body’ on the footage. Because it’s not a lot of bodies that have worked for the development of the national economy, but it’s my mother’s body, my grandmother’s body, and my body.


Desisfilm: Does the fact that you communicate from early childhood through sign language with your parents allows you to link the body –in a somatic sense– closer to communication on the symbolic order of language?

Bora Lee-Kil: It was closely related to the starting point of my artistic research “Writing a history through gesture and body movement -reading the silence and memories of our bodies”. The body is the first way and medium to always communicate with me. My parents have always learned something through their bodies, not books. I have learned in that way from my parents, so I decided to start my artistic research from my own body experience.

Desisfilm: How do you feel about putting the broad matter on the table by asking about abortion?

Bora Lee-Kil: For me, my body’s experience is the priority. That’s why I wanted to ask a very simple question to my mom, my grandmother, and the audiences. Have you ever thought about your body? What is the body for you? How was your body’s experience? Since Korea was economically developed rapidly after World War 2, there was no chance to care about our body. The government always talks about abortions, referring to population problems, but that’s what happens in women’s bodies, not in the population. The concept of ‘population’ is a later concept, and abortion and childbirth are the physical problems our bodies experience.

Desistfilm: What kind of freedom do you feel you are getting by working on OUR BODIES?

Bora Lee-Kil: Work-in-progress version “Our Bodies” has a very simple construct. It consists of archives footages of Korea and interviews with my mom and grandmother filmed in the studio. I ask my mom and grandmother about the women’s body and ask how each of them had experienced abortion.

The simplest may be the hardest to open up. I, my mother, and my grandmother were pregnant and had abortions, but that was not possible to open up in Korean society even in my family. I couldn’t speak about it even my body came from my mother’s body and from my grandmother’s body. Why? That was the starting question for this work. The simplest question is sometimes really difficult and I believe it frees us. Asking this question was difficult for myself and for my grandmother and mother. But after the shooting was over, I thought something was liberated. It will be the same for mom and grandmother. The question was finally thrown into the world.